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Wally



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Suggestion: Noob free zone for devs / testers Reply with quote

Is there any possible chance there could be a restricted section where certain people (like myself and others who actually HELP the dev test the program rather than whine about loose features or ask for support on things that already have been answered?


Just a suggestion,

Wally
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Re: Suggestion: Noob free zone for devs / testers Reply with quote

Wally4000 wrote:
Is there any possible chance there could be a restricted section where certain people (like myself and others who actually HELP the dev test the program rather than whine about loose features or ask for support on things that already have been answered?


Just a suggestion,

Wally

if I understood correctly, the purpose of these forums is for developer matters only so the restricted zone is in fact the whole forums.

noobs have all a multitude of other forums to post their questions.
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J.F.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But anyone, including noobs, can currently join, so that defeats the purpose. I think what he means is a forum that is invisible to most users here. The mods can determine who has access to it by their impressions of posts by the user. The user PMs a mod asking for access, and if the user seems to be a dev or a non-noob, the mod grants access to the invisible forum.

It's just about like that over at the SkyOS forums - they have TWO forums that way: the beta forum, and the alpha forum. Registered beta testers get access to the beta forum, special hand-picked beta testers get access to the alpha forum, and regular users can't even see the two forums.
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Wally



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.F. wrote:
But anyone, including noobs, can currently join, so that defeats the purpose. I think what he means is a forum that is invisible to most users here. The mods can determine who has access to it by their impressions of posts by the user. The user PMs a mod asking for access, and if the user seems to be a dev or a non-noob, the mod grants access to the invisible forum.

It's just about like that over at the SkyOS forums - they have TWO forums that way: the beta forum, and the alpha forum. Registered beta testers get access to the beta forum, special hand-picked beta testers get access to the alpha forum, and regular users can't even see the two forums.


Exactly my point, I can't see this happening around here though.. Admin are lazy :p
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But why would we want to make a forum hidden... Our forums act as a reference so if you start hiding things people will just reask, repost, etc....
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jbit wrote:
But why would we want to make a forum hidden... Our forums act as a reference so if you start hiding things people will just reask, repost, etc....


It would only be for threads like beta testing where you want to avoid noob-posts until later. If in the thread you discover something ground-breaking (like I did in my B2 thread), it could be posted in its own thread in the regular PSP dev forum for everyone. Since that happens maybe once or twice in a LONG thread, it's not THAT much reposting, and it makes it easier and cleaner to serve as a reference.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a noob, and I support this idea. Instead of using the forum group policy system to post protect it from non-group members, you should just totally isolate it from the public like the other posts suggest. ^^
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daft idea. The whole point is to end up with this forum as a great reference for coding Sony stuff. Take any of it offline and it becomes pointless. If it's supposed to be a secret then keep it in email.
I think J.F has lost the plot with the noob bashing - J.F the Nirvana of great devs chewing the cud in an exclusive forum is a mirage. There's not enough devs around for that.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would be nicer to have as a forum feature is something like a related threads option. This way you could create one thread for developer discussion and announcements, and another for Q&A, and link them together without having to sticky them as currently happens on a lot of forums.

It's a feature that I would really like on any forum, really. I just now thought if it, thanks to this thread.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi I'm noob! I say as far as beta testing goes this is a good idea. and if a noob has previously done beta testing they need to either be refered or produce substancial proof.

PS just joined and I love this place. I feel I'm really gonna learn here in the next year or so.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of hiding them, how about keeping them open, but only certain peeps can post, so that way people like myself can reference while more advanced people can discuss without interruption.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
Daft idea. The whole point is to end up with this forum as a great reference for coding Sony stuff. Take any of it offline and it becomes pointless. If it's supposed to be a secret then keep it in email.
I think J.F has lost the plot with the noob bashing - J.F the Nirvana of great devs chewing the cud in an exclusive forum is a mirage. There's not enough devs around for that.

Jim


Hi dude,

i would like to thanks for sharing and solve my problem here..
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It certainly would stop the double-posts.
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